Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Quixtar is AMWAY!

This post is just a little experiment. Our daughter SME, also known as the Amway deprogrammer, has written a couple of posts on this topic. She's gotten some weird responses.
It seems that the people that follow the cult known as Quixtar get REALLY defensive when anyone questions their business practices. She's also gotten very appreciative responses from people who have been taken in by this pyramid scheme.

If any of you have any experiences with this company, feel free to share.

MJ, if you're reading this, please don't take offense! I know you guys have done quite well with Amway and more power to you.

17 Comments:

At 10/12/2005 7:27 PM, Blogger FunkyB said...

Here's what's weird...

I've NEVER heard of this before tonight.

Tonight, I've read two blog posts dedicated to it.

How weird!?!?

 
At 10/12/2005 7:43 PM, Blogger tshsmom said...

That IS weird!!
Be warned, if someone asks you over to their house to discuss a business proposition and refuses to tell you what it is, DON'T GO!

 
At 10/12/2005 8:03 PM, Blogger Squirl said...

Quixtar is Amway??? I live in Amway country, here in Grand Rapids, MI. Those people think they own the world.

 
At 10/12/2005 8:33 PM, Blogger Notta Wallflower said...

I've never heard of it. I don't like companies like that. On Sunday, I went go the coffee shop and sat down and waited for my coffee and this woman sat with me and we struck up a conversation. Turns out she sells Mary Kay (grr) and she gave me her business card. /sigh I'd like to tell her what I really thought, but instead I was nice. Is Mary Kay related to Amway?

 
At 10/13/2005 11:03 AM, Blogger Sadie Lou said...

Those kinds of businesses creep me out. Sure, I bet people make money for awhile but eventually, the bottom HAS to fall out and that's when people get screwed. The people at the top will be fine, it's the people at the bottom that lose their butts.

 
At 10/13/2005 4:10 PM, Blogger tshsmom said...

Squirl, it's also World Wide Dreambuilders.

Notta, that's what's bad about those companies. They make most of their money on the crap they sell their employees.

Sadie, I have a close friend that's an emerald or some other Amway jewel. She and her husband were ready to quit their regular jobs. They didn't quit their jobs and I haven't heard about their lucrative "business" for quite a while. I think the bottom fell out of the pyramid for them.
Quixtar also uses religion to lure in their victims. They're a good Christian business and their CEOs live by rigid Christian ethics; yeah right!

 
At 10/13/2005 4:32 PM, Blogger The Zombieslayer said...

One of my "friends" tried to trick me into Quixtar. When I found out it was Amway, I've avoided him to the point we don't talk anymore. I like it that way.

I have yet to see someone succeed at Amway. Until then, I'll have nothing good to say about it. I've seen so many people put so many hours into it and make pennies on the dollar to how much they invested into it.

Notta - No, Mary Kay's not in any way related. Mary Kay actually sells pretty good quality make-up and their saleswomen generally make decent money. Like I said, I've yet to see anyone succeed with Amway.

My wife now gets her make-up from her friend who got into Mary Kay. My wife's friend had a bad cold and ran up a medical bill in the tens of thousands because she had no med insurance. Now by selling Mary Kay, she's getting herself out of debt and will soon be going back to school.

A quick disclaimer though. Not all Mary Kay women make money. My wife's friend definitely is though.

 
At 10/13/2005 5:51 PM, Blogger Sadie Lou said...

Mary Kay is a legit pyramid-business. Zombie, you gotta admit: Those women at the top of the Mary Kay tree, are pretty loaded...

 
At 10/13/2005 7:10 PM, Blogger Bridget Jones said...

No idea of what it is but I'll bet they show up at the door....

 
At 10/13/2005 7:28 PM, Blogger tshsmom said...

Bridg, it's mostly high priced cleaning products. They've been branching off into breath sprays, toothbrushes etc. They're in Canada too. My ex-son-in-law got drawn in for a serious amount of money!

 
At 10/13/2005 8:20 PM, Blogger Sagepaper said...

I have an aunt who made money with Avon. She wasn't rich, and she worked hard. It might not have been appealing as a business, but it was a decent way to make a living. Her hourly pay was slightly higher than it would have been had she worked as a nurse. That was a long time ago, though.

There are some specific similarities between religious cults and most pyramid schemes. It is brain-washing. Psychological trauma requiring professional treatment is not uncommon among those who leave either type of organization. These are not at all harmless lessons to learn.

In either case, if the prospect were told the entirety of what would be required, and offered the opportunity to review the matter rationally, they would never agree to it. They get hooked, and gradually, methodically reeled-in. Sometimes the pyramid schemes are actually more intense, with more power-filled meetings per month than a cult church.

Some of them even have their own living quarters for their suckers. A friend of mine got stuck in one of those: cold showers were part of the ugly program. That was an encyclopedia outfit that took college kids and moved them to a different part of the country, deprived them of transportation (no worries, no costs!), then enslaved them using old and new tricks -- one racket was "The Company Store" from the mining era.

 
At 10/13/2005 8:43 PM, Blogger tshsmom said...

Sage, I sold Avon in college. If you get a good territory, you can make decent money.
You're absolutely right about the damage that's done. Our daughter did intensive research on Amway and there are hundreds of horror stories. People have lost their homes and marriages. Don't you wonder how the heads of these "businesses" can sleep at night?

 
At 2/24/2006 1:29 PM, Blogger tan-one said...

I get such a kick out of all your responses. You use words like, lure, cult, victim, and weird. Clearly you don't understand the true nature of the Quixtar business. Yes, Quixtar is a sister company to Amway, and yes the IBO's, of which I am one, do sell cleaning products, as well as personal care, nutrition, and many others. In fact the Nutrilite nutrition products are a 70 year old business, are completely organic, and sell more than any competitive product line in the world.

Just admit that you are not interested in it. As for the zombieslayer I know dozens of people building huge businesses affiliated with Quixtar. You just aren't looking, or don't have the inclination to see the trugh about it. If any of you sat down with me you would find out all the information you would need to make a decision, who the companies are and their relationship, what the products are, the compensation program, the support and training programs. The bottom line now is that the ecommerce aspect of the Quixtar business is in the right place at the right time, and is growing substantially.

It is not for everybody, but then whatever you do for a living isn't for everybody either.

 
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